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		<title>Comment on Stop Watching the Search Engine Rankings Pot! by Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Deb. I appreciate your input :)</description>
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		<title>Comment on Stop Watching the Search Engine Rankings Pot! by Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 07:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lisa,

Thanks so much for your question and it&#039;s a good one!  

There are a significant number of things that are part of good SEO. I wish I had a definitive yes or no answer for you but your question is wallowing in a grey area. With the miniscule bit of information I have about your website, what your SEO people have done, are doing (or not doing) -- what you as the site owner have done, are doing (or not doing) -- without doing an evaluation of the site and yada yada yada ... my answer is &quot;Maybe, but not necessarily.&quot; 

Without a doubt I can say that SEO is *not* an exact science. Are there sneaky, underhanded, dirty players out to take your money and run SEO &quot;specialists&quot; making promises and giving guarantees of good rankings? Unfortunately, yes. Even more unfortunately -- some people are so desperate to get to the top that they get sucked into this scenario way to often. Are there SEO companies out there deliberately claiming to be experts who aren&#039;t? Yes. Are there well meaning people trying really hard to provide a client with SEO services who think they understand it but really don&#039;t? Yes. More yada yada yada.

On the other hand there are SEO specialists who, with the *total* cooperation of their clients, are able to achieve good results in *most* cases. Others are racking their brains and wearing out their keyboards practicing good, legal, organic search engine optimization but because of the many things that can (and do!) work against a site and despite what they do to make progress, they just aren&#039;t able to get first page rankings for a website. Because there are sooooo many variables, they may be successful for a hundred sites but not for #101. 

It&#039;s been my experience that one of the things some clients (not YOU because it sounds like you&#039;ve been patient) expect for their money is first page rankings and some even expect to see immediate results. I believe this mindset comes from misunderstanding how things work. Site owners should *never* assume nor expect that their site is going to achieve first page results just because they want it (who doesn&#039;t?) and/or because they&#039;re paying someone to help them get there. Keywords here are &quot;help them get there.&quot; I&#039;ve found all to often that people literally expect miracles because they&#039;re paying someone to &quot;make it happen FOR them&quot; but they themselves aren&#039;t willing to do their part. Then they blame the SEO person for failing to do their job. Good SEO work is done by *both* the SEO specialist *and* the client and is more successful when the client understands that it&#039;s a combined effort not an &quot;I&#039;ll pay you to make me successful&quot; situation and does what needs doing on the client end of things.

I have no idea which of those your chosen SEO person (people, company) are. I&#039;m not going to guess nor am I going to bash and I have no idea what part your company has played in the efforts. Your situation brings to mind someone (someone being your website) having been diagnosed with a serious illness, the illness being a lack of good rankings. You may want to ask yourself this: &quot;What do people who&#039;ve been diagnosed with a serious illness do?&quot; It sounds to me like you&#039;re thinking and moving in the right direction which is asking questions and seeking information to find a cure. Good for you! It&#039;s nice to see a pro-active site owner!

Because of all the variables, there&#039;s no definite time-frame that one should give a website to show good rankings. You said it&#039;s been months, which may mean a couple or many. I would say if you&#039;re unhappy with things the way they are, no matter how long it&#039;s been, if it were me in this situation I would opt for getting a second opinion. From that I&#039;d learn either I&#039;m being impatient or that I need to take alternative action. 

I did click over to your website for a *very* quick look, and I do mean very quick (as in a minute or two) so please understand very clearly that this is not to be thought of as a full-blown evaluation. The only thing I will say is that each search engine specialist has their own way of doing things and I saw things that I&#039;d do differently. 

I&#039;m sorry I can&#039;t give you a yes or no answer but I hope I&#039;ve been of some help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lisa,</p>
<p>Thanks so much for your question and it&#8217;s a good one!  </p>
<p>There are a significant number of things that are part of good SEO. I wish I had a definitive yes or no answer for you but your question is wallowing in a grey area. With the miniscule bit of information I have about your website, what your SEO people have done, are doing (or not doing) &#8212; what you as the site owner have done, are doing (or not doing) &#8212; without doing an evaluation of the site and yada yada yada &#8230; my answer is &#8220;Maybe, but not necessarily.&#8221; </p>
<p>Without a doubt I can say that SEO is *not* an exact science. Are there sneaky, underhanded, dirty players out to take your money and run SEO &#8220;specialists&#8221; making promises and giving guarantees of good rankings? Unfortunately, yes. Even more unfortunately &#8212; some people are so desperate to get to the top that they get sucked into this scenario way to often. Are there SEO companies out there deliberately claiming to be experts who aren&#8217;t? Yes. Are there well meaning people trying really hard to provide a client with SEO services who think they understand it but really don&#8217;t? Yes. More yada yada yada.</p>
<p>On the other hand there are SEO specialists who, with the *total* cooperation of their clients, are able to achieve good results in *most* cases. Others are racking their brains and wearing out their keyboards practicing good, legal, organic search engine optimization but because of the many things that can (and do!) work against a site and despite what they do to make progress, they just aren&#8217;t able to get first page rankings for a website. Because there are sooooo many variables, they may be successful for a hundred sites but not for #101. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s been my experience that one of the things some clients (not YOU because it sounds like you&#8217;ve been patient) expect for their money is first page rankings and some even expect to see immediate results. I believe this mindset comes from misunderstanding how things work. Site owners should *never* assume nor expect that their site is going to achieve first page results just because they want it (who doesn&#8217;t?) and/or because they&#8217;re paying someone to help them get there. Keywords here are &#8220;help them get there.&#8221; I&#8217;ve found all to often that people literally expect miracles because they&#8217;re paying someone to &#8220;make it happen FOR them&#8221; but they themselves aren&#8217;t willing to do their part. Then they blame the SEO person for failing to do their job. Good SEO work is done by *both* the SEO specialist *and* the client and is more successful when the client understands that it&#8217;s a combined effort not an &#8220;I&#8217;ll pay you to make me successful&#8221; situation and does what needs doing on the client end of things.</p>
<p>I have no idea which of those your chosen SEO person (people, company) are. I&#8217;m not going to guess nor am I going to bash and I have no idea what part your company has played in the efforts. Your situation brings to mind someone (someone being your website) having been diagnosed with a serious illness, the illness being a lack of good rankings. You may want to ask yourself this: &#8220;What do people who&#8217;ve been diagnosed with a serious illness do?&#8221; It sounds to me like you&#8217;re thinking and moving in the right direction which is asking questions and seeking information to find a cure. Good for you! It&#8217;s nice to see a pro-active site owner!</p>
<p>Because of all the variables, there&#8217;s no definite time-frame that one should give a website to show good rankings. You said it&#8217;s been months, which may mean a couple or many. I would say if you&#8217;re unhappy with things the way they are, no matter how long it&#8217;s been, if it were me in this situation I would opt for getting a second opinion. From that I&#8217;d learn either I&#8217;m being impatient or that I need to take alternative action. </p>
<p>I did click over to your website for a *very* quick look, and I do mean very quick (as in a minute or two) so please understand very clearly that this is not to be thought of as a full-blown evaluation. The only thing I will say is that each search engine specialist has their own way of doing things and I saw things that I&#8217;d do differently. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry I can&#8217;t give you a yes or no answer but I hope I&#8217;ve been of some help.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Stop Watching the Search Engine Rankings Pot! by Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 20:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deb - would you agree that after months and $$$ with an SEO company that you should see some sort of positive progress? At least some keywords entering the first page after weeks and months of tweaking opportunity? How do you know when to can the &quot;exact science&quot; excuse and find someone with a better formula?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deb &#8211; would you agree that after months and $$$ with an SEO company that you should see some sort of positive progress? At least some keywords entering the first page after weeks and months of tweaking opportunity? How do you know when to can the &#8220;exact science&#8221; excuse and find someone with a better formula?</p>
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		<title>Comment on My Love-Hate Relationship with WordPress by Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I ask what makes you think this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I ask what makes you think this?</p>
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		<title>Comment on My Love-Hate Relationship with WordPress by sherlizz</title>
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		<dc:creator>sherlizz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 22:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and before long all these &quot;wonderful&quot; CMS driven sites will just BLOW! Moreover, it&#039;s not design at all, it&#039;s just fill-in exercise., All these sites also look pretty much the same. Wordpress and Joomla are big pains in the butt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and before long all these &#8220;wonderful&#8221; CMS driven sites will just BLOW! Moreover, it&#8217;s not design at all, it&#8217;s just fill-in exercise., All these sites also look pretty much the same. WordPress and Joomla are big pains in the butt.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Save Money on Your Web Site &#8211; Chapter 1 by Megan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2011 14:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite- clients ignoring requests for content and then asking why their website isn&#039;t finished yet...?

Then comes a million emails and calls on Sunday morning while I&#039;m walking my dog. 

The internet is working 24/7, but designers don&#039;t.

Another great post! I know you&#039;re busy, don&#039;t worry about the &quot;thank you&quot;,just keep on truck&#039;n!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite- clients ignoring requests for content and then asking why their website isn&#8217;t finished yet&#8230;?</p>
<p>Then comes a million emails and calls on Sunday morning while I&#8217;m walking my dog. </p>
<p>The internet is working 24/7, but designers don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Another great post! I know you&#8217;re busy, don&#8217;t worry about the &#8220;thank you&#8221;,just keep on truck&#8217;n!</p>
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		<title>Comment on How I Caught the Blogging Bug by Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 06:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI Megan,

Thanks so much for stopping by and I really appreciate your compliments. I&#039;m so happy I was able to give you some help, that&#039;s really nice to hear. I hope you will stop back again and be a regular on my blog. I wasn&#039;t aware that Lis was &quot;passing my name around.&quot; That&#039;s just wayyy cool!

Deb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI Megan,</p>
<p>Thanks so much for stopping by and I really appreciate your compliments. I&#8217;m so happy I was able to give you some help, that&#8217;s really nice to hear. I hope you will stop back again and be a regular on my blog. I wasn&#8217;t aware that Lis was &#8220;passing my name around.&#8221; That&#8217;s just wayyy cool!</p>
<p>Deb</p>
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		<title>Comment on How I Caught the Blogging Bug by Megan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 14:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t seem to leave your site,you answer all my questions and frustrations all in one place. I&#039;m a Wordpress beginner and I too understand the learning curve.

-Truly impressed Lis commented on this blog, there&#039;s good business after all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t seem to leave your site,you answer all my questions and frustrations all in one place. I&#8217;m a WordPress beginner and I too understand the learning curve.</p>
<p>-Truly impressed Lis commented on this blog, there&#8217;s good business after all!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why You Should Avoid PopUps on Your WebSite by Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love what you have to say here! Thank you for sharing it with us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love what you have to say here! Thank you for sharing it with us!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why You Should Avoid PopUps on Your WebSite by Popupstar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Popupstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2011 23:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I close any site with a popup (not the popup) in the very instance it pops up. It&#039;s a reflex. Any company name I catch while closing the site has discredited itself forever as having an extremely annoying business conduct and there&#039;s nothing I want that bad that I have to deal with them. 

So for me they are doing the exact opposite of what they&#039;re supposed to do and I didn&#039;t even deliberately plan on that or had an existing opinion about popups. Most marketing people know from studies made years ago that popups are highly counterproductive in many ways. 

But still, serious companies have crappy marketing departments not really interested in anything some cheap outsourced web service shack they hire tells them about their great plans that actually consist of popups and black hat SEO spam, so they will never disappear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I close any site with a popup (not the popup) in the very instance it pops up. It&#8217;s a reflex. Any company name I catch while closing the site has discredited itself forever as having an extremely annoying business conduct and there&#8217;s nothing I want that bad that I have to deal with them. </p>
<p>So for me they are doing the exact opposite of what they&#8217;re supposed to do and I didn&#8217;t even deliberately plan on that or had an existing opinion about popups. Most marketing people know from studies made years ago that popups are highly counterproductive in many ways. </p>
<p>But still, serious companies have crappy marketing departments not really interested in anything some cheap outsourced web service shack they hire tells them about their great plans that actually consist of popups and black hat SEO spam, so they will never disappear.</p>
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